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 Post subject: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:40 pm 
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So, what do you think? Edwards affair has been forced out into the open. Has he covered his butt by another campaign friend claiming to be the father of Hunter's baby? Will DNA testing prove Who's Who?

Admittedly, I'm disappointed that Edwards lied to everyone. I'm saddened that a friend of his covered it up in monetary payoff to keep her mouth shut, of which Edwards denies knowing anything about. Why should we believe him now?


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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:10 am 
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The fact that Americans care about such things just demonstrates the FundaGelical nature of the nation.

It's irrelevant. Sexual adventures are a part of life and Edwards has proven to be human. In 95% of the world it would be page nine news.

America needs to grow up.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:00 am 
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The Real Logos wrote:
The fact that Americans care about such things just demonstrates the FundaGelical nature of the nation.

It's irrelevant. Sexual adventures are a part of life and Edwards has proven to be human. In 95% of the world it would be page nine news.

America needs to grow up.

Pax!
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Disagree. America should insist on honest politicians in all phases of government office. Sexual adventures are played by immature people who have sperm for brains. And the risk to citizen welfare is seen in how Edwards was blackmailed, otherwise he would not have gone to meet Hunter on her demands. What if she had been a spy for another country? How far would a politician go to cover his butt in such a situation? Would he put Americans interest and welfare before his own or stab the American people in the back? These politicians are no longer in private lives when in political office or running for office. Their JOB is to serve the people of the U.S. without causing harm or the potential to cause harm.

And let us not forget his wife, Elizabeth. She knew about the dishonesty of her husband even while he was running for president. She helped cover up his crap. There is no excuse for either of them.


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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:09 am 
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Wrong.

Personal stuff is personal stuff and should not be reported.....period.

The only ones who really get excited about sex gossip are fat old women who can't get a man to come near them.

They hate anybody who's getting any.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:07 pm 
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The Real Logos wrote:
Wrong.

Personal stuff is personal stuff and should not be reported.....period.

The only ones who really get excited about sex gossip are fat old women who can't get a man to come near them.

They hate anybody who's getting any.

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BS. When their juvenile behavior dismisses responsibility to their political office or their aspiring to get elected by the people, then they are accountable. Privacy is a fallacy in public service for they are bought and paid for by the citizenry to perform according to an open book, so to speak. Also, campaign funds from citizens moved Edwards along while he was wasting untold sums of other people's money. In other words, he didn't screw around on his own dime. And isn't that like stealing from his supporters?


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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:19 pm 
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No, it's not.

If you take away the politician's right to have a private life, you eliminate all the normal people from politics. Bad mistake.

You end up with people like Bush.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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I had a weird week – spent with my family, the only snippets of TV viewed was Coronation Street. I thought this post was a soap opera plot at first. I can’t believe that David Platt tried to kill his brother-in-law, set fire to his sister’s wedding dress and then faked his own suicide to get attention!

I don’t know the details of this Edwards story so won’t comment.

America demands a fairytale couple for its white palace – which makes all the contenders for the post phony, stunned-looking but shiny people.

Please note: I am weary of the clichéd, snidey remarks about old and fat women.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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I don’t know the details of this Edwards story so won’t comment.


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That's the whole point.....nobody but Edwards and his family should know the details.

It's nobody's business but theirs. The sex police should stay out of it....just like the womb Nazis should stay out of the wombs of others.

Yes, it has always seemed to me that the sex police are led by fat, bitter and envious old women who lack male companionship.

So shoot me......obviously I'M the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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Yes, it has always seemed to me that the sex police are led by fat, bitter and envious old women who lack male companionship.

So shoot me......obviously I'M the problem.



You could be the problem, as it has always seemed to me that men who are part Native American will see cases of adultery from the man’s point of view.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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i was watching cnn...is that the network with anderson cooper?...anyway, i was watching the talking heads discuss the story after edwards made his statement - and i had to laugh as one democratic suit offered his assessment that he thought edwards had said w-a-y too much and should now just "...just the hell up."

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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As with Clinton before him.......the response should simply be, "I will not comment because it's personal."

As for this from Sola:

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You could be the problem, as it has always seemed to me that men who are part Native American will see cases of adultery from the man’s point of view.


I think most men, even FundaGelical men, see the adultery from the man's point of view.

But remember, I didn't say it was ok, I just said it was personal.

There's a big difference.

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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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So, if you don't expect honesty from political leaders then you expect them to be what, liars cheats and theives? If that's the case then you have no reason to complain when they stab you in the back. Which is just what Edwards did, imo. Geeze, I would have voted for him had he been the candidate for presidency.

Can you believe him when he says that he knew nothing of the payoffs made to Hunter? Evidently she was blackmailing him. Edwards says he didn't know if one of his campaign workers had been pushing big bucks into her pocket.

And I hear that Hunter is refusing to take the needed test to prove Edwards is the father of her little money-maker. :twisted: Maybe she wants suspense or more tabloid coverage, or a book deal or even a movie.


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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:06 pm 
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As with Clinton before him.......the response should simply be, "I will not comment because it's personal."

No lies there......our current politicians have been brainwashed into thinking that they have to bare their personal lives.....so they have attempted to engineer away embarrassing problems.

All they need to do is say, "I will not comment because it's personal."

Anything else leads to nuts like Bush being president.

Pax!
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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
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The Real Logos wrote:
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As with Clinton before him.......the response should simply be, "I will not comment because it's personal."

No lies there......our current politicians have been brainwashed into thinking that they have to bare their personal lives.....so they have attempted to engineer away embarrassing problems.

All they need to do is say, "I will not comment because it's personal."

Anything else leads to nuts like Bush being president.

Pax!
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Some of our current and past politicians have grown accustomed to being put on a pedestal like little gods. Once in office they grow in the idea that they can't be touched for their imprepriorities. In other words, they have come to believe they are not accountable to the citizens who elected them, and brainwash the public into their scheme of "its a private affair" BS. But once they are in office they are open to scrutiny. And if they can't handle being honest than they should not run for public office. If Edwards (and his wife) had come clean with the American citizens, this episode would not have made such an impact. But both he and his wife discussed their predicament beforehand and decided to fool the American people. A tragic mistake on their part, imo, for not only has their lies affected their political careers but also their private business life in whatever avenue they seek to practice, such as law practice. What Edwards did is deemed unethical. And like Bill Clinton, he'll now have to suffer the consequences from a Republican party who will never let him forget that he lied to American citizens, and in this case for Edwards, used campaign donated dollars to pay-off his sexual liason.

btw, at least Hilary isn't on the chopping block for helping to hide the facts regarding Bill's little trisk. Elizabeth Edwards on the other hand is shown at the bottom of the barrel in this episode because she conspired with her husband to deceive the public. Neither of them can be trusted due to this one thing.


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 Post subject: Re: The Paternity Question
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:18 am 
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In other words, they have come to believe they are not accountable to the citizens who elected them, and brainwash the public into their scheme of "its a private affair" BS.


Although folks like Roselyn can't see it.....adultery IS a private affair.

People obsessed with sex are blind to the distinction.....and America has plenty of people who are obsessed with sex.

Roselyn's misguided and shame-based FundaGelical (puritanical) response is a common one in America where religious extremism has created a culture focused on sex and "catching" politicians in adultery is more important than electing good, competent and qualified people to office.

America is the only nation in the world where even Atheist thinking is ruled by puritanical programming.

America needs to grow up.

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